Comments on: Mr 10% http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/2007/05/30/mr-10/ Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:38:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: rohan http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/2007/05/30/mr-10/#comment-3328 rohan Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:59:46 +0000 http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/2007/05/30/mr-10/#comment-3328 if you read carefully, it said 5 to 10%!!! But as amac said, it was probably more considering none of you have any idea how 'hopeless' my boat was downwind at the nationals, so you can all stick the 10% up your arse! ;-) and yes, obviously my winning distances have closed up over the last few years thanks to taking on the huge challenge with a brand new boat not to mention newbies like Luka getting a proven package. (however i think i won a race by 10 minutes at the NSW states? maybe the gap is getting bigger again?) Phil - totally agree about one good design for all conditions (as i have learnt this leason last time we raced at garda), and that is what the MSL12 and BR X8 sail is for. however it can get very windy at the top end of garda and it is nice to have the option (especially when u work for a sail making company). will be interesting to see how it compares to a MSL12 in +20 knots tho as we have not yet had the chance to test both at the same time. My experience is that when it gets +20 knots, you actaully go a knot or two slower upwind using the MSL12 compared to sailing in 12-14 knots of wind thanks to all the drag. if you read carefully, it said 5 to 10%!!!

But as amac said, it was probably more considering none of you have any idea how ‘hopeless’ my boat was downwind at the nationals, so you can all stick the 10% up your arse! ;-)

and yes, obviously my winning distances have closed up over the last few years thanks to taking on the huge challenge with a brand new boat not to mention newbies like Luka getting a proven package. (however i think i won a race by 10 minutes at the NSW states? maybe the gap is getting bigger again?)

Phil - totally agree about one good design for all conditions (as i have learnt this leason last time we raced at garda), and that is what the MSL12 and BR X8 sail is for. however it can get very windy at the top end of garda and it is nice to have the option (especially when u work for a sail making company). will be interesting to see how it compares to a MSL12 in +20 knots tho as we have not yet had the chance to test both at the same time.

My experience is that when it gets +20 knots, you actaully go a knot or two slower upwind using the MSL12 compared to sailing in 12-14 knots of wind thanks to all the drag.

]]> By: Phil S http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/2007/05/30/mr-10/#comment-2751 Phil S Wed, 30 May 2007 22:46:24 +0000 http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/2007/05/30/mr-10/#comment-2751 So if we add up all of the 4 or 5 10% gains claimed since BR emerged, either they were pretty hopeless to start with or they will be winning by a whole lap at Garda, we will see in 4 weeks. Like the new specialist heavy weather sail (ref Rohan's site, Not BRX8 one design I assume?), most new tricks work in one set of conditions and have downfalls when those conditions are not quite right. The trick to good design and development is to have the best comprimise to cover all competition conditions, or the on water adaptability to do so. Getting a lot closer to a friction less wand mechanism would appear to be an obvious aim, hardly a breakthrough? Maybe there is more? So if we add up all of the 4 or 5 10% gains claimed since BR emerged, either they were pretty hopeless to start with or they will be winning by a whole lap at Garda, we will see in 4 weeks.

Like the new specialist heavy weather sail (ref Rohan’s site, Not BRX8 one design I assume?), most new tricks work in one set of conditions and have downfalls when those conditions are not quite right. The trick to good design and development is to have the best comprimise to cover all competition conditions, or the on water adaptability to do so.

Getting a lot closer to a friction less wand mechanism would appear to be an obvious aim, hardly a breakthrough? Maybe there is more?

]]> By: Andrew McDougall http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/2007/05/30/mr-10/#comment-2652 Andrew McDougall Wed, 30 May 2007 09:07:15 +0000 http://scott.projectsomewhere.com/2007/05/30/mr-10/#comment-2652 Usually I cringe at Rohan's claims, but not this time. This was a huge jump, probably more for me than for Rohan, as he is a bit better controlling a badly tuned boat down wind. I was completely blown away by the improvement. I would have said more than 10% - but only downwind in a breeze with some waves. We were possibly a bit off the pace before in these conditions, but definitely no longer. Usually I cringe at Rohan’s claims, but not this time. This was a huge jump, probably more for me than for Rohan, as he is a bit better controlling a badly tuned boat down wind. I was completely blown away by the improvement. I would have said more than 10% - but only downwind in a breeze with some waves. We were possibly a bit off the pace before in these conditions, but definitely no longer.

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